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Date: Tue, 24 May 94 16:09:08 PDT
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Info-Hams Digest            Tue, 24 May 94       Volume 94 : Issue  568

Today's Topics:
                              150 Years
                     2 meter thru-glass (2 msgs)
                          AMSAT on Internet
                           Any club at BYU?
                         Field Day! (2 msgs)
               Have some courtesy and leave your name.
                         Hold Welfare Traffic
                         Obstructing justice
                   President 10 meter power upgrade
                    Six Meter Opening on Saturday
                           SkyWarn Patches
                              Subscribe
                         Test session wierdos
                        What does HAM mean ?

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Date: 24 May 1994 16:28:53 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!astro.as.utexas.edu![e-mail]
Subject: 150 Years
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (K1AG) says:


>Today's the day it all began.  One hundred fifty years ago today,
>March 24, 1844 Samuel F.B. Morse sat at a table in the US Capitol
>building in Washington and sent the first public telegraph message
>to his assistant, Alfred Vail, in Baltimore.  Morse's first message
>-- What hath God wrought -- opened the age of electronic communications.


You mean he didn't say "QRZ the Line!" first?

Vail apparently replied "Go away, I have been using this line for the
last 3 hrs and I always use it at this time of day, find another one,
you jerk".

Morse not only gave us his (or somebody else's) code, but his middle
initials (F.B.) are constantly used as a greeting among hams (or is
it HAMs) worldwide, in his memory.


Derek "Fine Business" Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX)
Department of Astronomy, University of Texas,
Austin TX 78712.  (512-471-1392)
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 16:18:07 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!col.hp.com!srgenprp![e-mail]
Subject: 2 meter thru-glass
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] wrote:
: Jim Hollenback writes:
: >Matching was 1:1.1. I would not call that doesn't match well. Been on the
: >truck for the past couple years ... still 1:1.1, I would not call that
: >ages badly.

: I'm glad that you had better luck with them than I did. Mine was a
: never-ending source of trouble, and I ended up throwing it away.

: Mike, N4PDY

These antennas (at least the Larson Glass Mount) are fine business in my
opinion.  As I previously stated, it really depends on the tinting material
used in the glass.  If you have tinted glass, it might be wise to check with
the antenna mfg first.  Mine worked on my Ford Pickup with non-tinted glass
as well as my 5/8 mag mount.  When I transferred it to my Explored that has
some sort of tinting at the top part of the glass, it didn't work nearly as
well (ie 2.3:1 vs 1.2:1 on the pickemup).  It is worth the effort to check
on the glass, IMHO, because there is no drilling and it provides a sanitary
installation.
GudLuck, Bill/N6GHG

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Date: 24 May 94 11:54:51 -0600
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!atlas.tntech.edu![e-mail]
Subject: 2 meter thru-glass
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:
> Jim Hollenback writes:
>>Matching was 1:1.1. I would not call that doesn't match well. Been on the
>>truck for the past couple years ... still 1:1.1, I would not call that
>>ages badly.
>
> I'm glad that you had better luck with them than I did. Mine was a
> never-ending source of trouble, and I ended up throwing it away.
>
> Mike, N4PDY
>
>
Well I have one by Lakeview (Ham Sticks People). Easiest thing to mount, and
comes with the wrench and a plastic alignment tool.. in case you need them. The
quality of the materials is EXCELLENT.. the antenna works VERY well.. blows the
doors off the 1/4 wave mag mount I have been using. I checked the SWR.. almost
1:1 on most of the repeater I use.. and the worst at the bottom edge was 1.1:1.

The SWR readings were with NO TUNING... just stuck the antenna on...

73

Jeff, AC4HF

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Date: 24 May 94 21:37:30 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: AMSAT on Internet
To: [e-mail]

In response to a recent question about the contact point for AMSAT.  Quoting
from the editor's column in the latest AMSAT Journal:
  "AMSAT pronsors three mailing list on the Internet.  The most widely
   subscribed is called amsat-bb and it is a general bulletin board and
   discussion group for matters relating to AMSAT, satellites, technology,
    and so forth.  Anyone can post messages to amsatt-bb.  There are two
   other mailing lists as weel, one to distribute AMSAT News Service
   bulletins and one to distribute Keplerian elements bulletins.
    ..............  To subscribe to the amsat-bb mailing list, send a
   message to:    [e-mail]   telling them you would like to
   subscribe to amsat-bb.  The list is not automatically maintained,
   instead it is done by hand, so it may take a while to process subscribe/
   unsubscribe requests.  Please be patient."

I hope this satisfies.
73 de Bob W3OTC

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Date: 24 May 94 11:53:15 -0700
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!news.byu.edu!yvax.byu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Any club at BYU?
To: [e-mail]

>Is there any radio-club station at BYU? I'll be visiting Provo-Orem at the
>beginning of August with a French friend of mine and we would like to operate
>from
>there...
>
>73 de Laurent

Call 378-COAX for information about BYU's Amateur Radio Club when you get here.

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Date: 24 May 94 14:28:38 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!cobra.uni.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Field Day!
To: [e-mail]

        Hello everyone!   I am thinking about Field Day comming up and I have a
few ???'s.  I have been into ham radio for 4 months with my general class
license.  I have a Yaesu FT301AD and I was thinking about running my own FD
site.

        The problem is that I can't afford a generator, and I have verry little
experience with putting antennas up in the middle of a field or what ever the
terrain may be.

       I have a 100' long wire, a 10 meter vertical (converted 11m vert), and
soon to be 20m dipole. And a MFJ tuner.

        I have thought of running my rig with the car bateries, just plop the
radio in the right seat.  (But remaining in the same spot at all times).

        Would the car approach work or would the 15 amp radio suck my battery
dry in no time?   PLEASE HELP!  I really want to go for some real points, and I
personally think comercial power is not as challenging.

     73's    N0ZYA    Waterloo, Iowa




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Date: 24 May 1994 20:11:19 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.duke.edu!eff!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cville-srv.wam.umd.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Field Day!
To: [e-mail]

>        Hello everyone!   I am thinking about Field Day coming up -
>few ???'s.  I have been into ham radio for 4 months with my general class
>license.  I have a Yaesu FT301AD and I was thinking about running my own FD
>site.
>
>       I have a 100' long wire, a 10 meter vertical (converted 11m vert), and
>soon to be 20m dipole. And a MFJ tuner.
>
>        I have thought of running my rig with the car bateries, just plop the
>radio in the right seat.  (But remaining in the same spot at all times).
>
>        Would the car approach work or would the 15 amp radio suck my battery
>dry in no time?   PLEASE HELP!

Why on EARTH do you need to run 100 watts?  You get 1 or 2 points for over
150 watts, 2 or 4 for 6-150 watts, and 5 or 10 for <5 watts.  I find it a
heck of a lot more challenging to run 5 watts and see just what I can do.
And the installation of antennas in a tree is what it's really about.
Remove your car battery, take the radio off somewhere, put up a tent,
throw up the antennas, and have a good time (maybe good to not be alone,
as well).

I managed roughly 130 QSO's (all but 5 on CW) last year and got 1300+
points out of it.  At the 100 watt level, you'd need 325 Q's to get the
same point total.  And nearly 100% of my operation was on 80 meters, as
I hadn't cut a dipole for 20 (but I will this year).

YES, 15 amps will NOT do well for your car battery.  But run QRP, and
your fresh car battery might just get you through the whole 24-hour
period.  You'd be surprised just what an effect a good antenna system
can have.

The U of MD club (W3EAX) used to do FD's with a vengeance.  We mounted
tribanders on a couple of really big (100') light towers in this public
park that allowed us to stay overnight.  And then we built this 80m
log periodic, with something like 22 elements (never got it to work,
though).  But it was sure a lot of fun running the pileups on 15 and 20
on just 5 watts (i.e. we WERE the station people were piling up FOR!),
and to just hear the reaction when we said we were running 5 watts to
a tribander at 100 feet...

That was the year I worked Hawaii on 15 CW around 8 p.m. local time.
Boy, was that fun.

Scott NF3I
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                            \ /  Long   Original
Scott Rosenfeld  Amateur Radio NF3I  Burtonsville, MD     |   Live    $5.00
  WAC-CW/SSB  WAS  DXCC - 125 QSLed on dipoles __________| Dipoles! Antenna!

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Date: 24 May 94 18:00:30 GMT
From: agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!NewsWatcher![e-mail]
Subject: Have some courtesy and leave your name.
To: [e-mail]

Someone left me voicemail about the discussion regarding  the ARRL and
failed to leave a name. Next time grow a set and leave your name.

Tony
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== The opinions above are my own and not those of my employer.

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Date: Mon, 23 May 94 19:47:00 -0800
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ns.mcs.kent.edu!kira.cc.uakron.edu!malgudi.oar.net!infinet!nitelog![e-mail]
Subject: Hold Welfare Traffic
To: [e-mail]

Hold Health and Welfare Traffic
Greg Pool WH6DT

During a disaster, we hear many Amateur Radio stations passing welfare
traffic.  It's the easiest traffic to pass, there's no time limit and it
is the most visible part of emergency communications.

Many times an operator will sit on a 40 or 20 m frequency specifically
because they have everything set up for a phone patch into a specific
area of the country.  Sometimes operators are given free long distance
accounts to place those calls.  Everyone can hear the anguish in the
voices over the phone and the caller thanking the operator over and over
for their dedication and service.

That kind of instant gratification can be intoxicating for the rest of
the Amateur Community, to the point of passing welfare traffic without
considering the consequences.  From my own experience in disaster
communications, most welfare traffic is supportive but not necessary.
In fact holding on to that initial query will probably get you an answer
faster than if you had actually sent it.

Incoming vs Outgoing
Let's divide it up.  There's INCOMING welfare traffic, where a party
sends a message to a party within the disaster area; and there's
OUTGOING, where the party within the disaster sends a message to the
outside.

What does it take to run an outgoing message?  It takes an operator in
the disaster area and anybody on the outside willing to pass it.
Usually there are more than enough volunteers to do help deliver it.

But incoming is much more intensive.  Not only does the operator on the
inside accept the traffic, they either finds a runner or run it
themselves.  Rarely are either of those choices viable options.  You
cannot leave your station, the person next to you already has 20 things
to do, and the phone lines must be left open for civilian and civic
disaster relief agencies.

Thus, incoming welfare traffic is a luxury.  The victim will get word
out eventually, even originate their own outgoing message.  If they are
dead, they are dead; your messages will not help them.  If they are
injured, then a disaster relief agency will attend to them; but if you
are a thousand miles away, what more can you do?  By sending that
message, you tax the relief effort even more.

We Were Not Thinking
The Amateur Radio response to the Northridge Earthquake in Los Angeles
was replete with bad habits.  Many Amateur Radio operators sent and
accepted incoming welfare traffic on many of the HF nets and packet;
there were very few "outgoing-only" nets.  In the San Francisco Bay
Area, one Amateur Radio operator provided his phone number to a local TV
station so that people could contact him for incoming welfare traffic.

We were not thinking beyond just being on the air.  We were not thinking
about what it took to pass that traffic in the disaster area.  We were
not thinking about what passing incoming traffic took away from those in
need.

Many of the stations accepting the incoming traffic used local phone
lines to contact the disaster parties, and in the first few days the
success rate was terrible.  In doing so, however, it meant that someone
who had emergency or priority traffic could not use the phone because it
was being tied up needlessly.

It is a matter of precedence and responsibilitiy.  The best thing you
can do is not originate or accept any incoming welfare messages in the
first week after disaster.  There's usually nothing the sending party
can do anyway except wait or sponsor a disaster relief agency.  Why tie
up the network needlessly?

Instead, stand by to originate and accept outgoing messages.  You will
not handle as much traffic, and I may not hear (or see) your callsign as
often, but you will have freed up an operator in a disaster area to
become part of the solution and not part of the problem.

[reprinted from the ARRL's Section Leader, May, 1994]

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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 13:23:05 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!rsiatl!ke4zv![e-mail]
Subject: Obstructing justice
To: [e-mail]

In article <2rqthm$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Derek Wills) writes:
>[e-mail] (Sandy Lynch) says:
>Someone else said:
>
>: Well, how about "obstruction of justice," a full-fledged crime?
>
>>Ah ..... but doesn't the advice by radio that there is a radar trap
>>ahead basically serve to inform others that it is wise to slow down
>>so as not to break local traffic laws - that is prevention - nothing
>>to do with "obstructing" justice AFTER the commission of a crime -
>>of which a traffic violation has nothing to do.   AND, what's the
>>difference, then, between a notice on the radio about a radar trap
>>compared with a signpost indicating that radar may be used in that
>>particular area?
>
>My brother once got a ticket for flashing his headlights at oncoming
>cars to warn them of police radar ahead.  This was in Canada - your
>mileage and fine may vary.   I dunno what the official charge was and
>what they do in foreign countries may not be relevant here.  I think
>it's Canada (Ontario) where the police can confiscate radar detectors,
>and you might well lose a 2m radio that way too.

Well sure, that's Canada. Here in the US we still have the tatters
of a Bill of Rights. In a nearby local town they ran a vicious
speed trap. A farmer put up a sign just outside the city limits that
read, "Warning, speed trap ahead run by local parasites." They took
him to court trying to get it taken down, but they lost. The truth
is still a defense in this country.

It's not illegal to talk on the radio about any cop you see.
Our traffic reporters do it all the time. And it's not illegal
to follow cops around and photograph them in action, our photographers
do it all the time. Their activities are public, and hence in the
public domain.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |

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Date: 24 May 1994 14:46:14 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu![e-mail]
Subject: President 10 meter power upgrade
To: [e-mail]

Hi,
    Is anyone out there aware of modifications to the President
2510 which boost the power out from 25 to 50 watts?  If so please forward
that information to me.  Thank you.
--
David Kirkpatrick N1RBM, Sequoia Systems, Marlboro, Ma
[e-mail]



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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 16:33:18 GMT
From: psinntp!psinntp!gdc!esun223![e-mail]
Subject: Six Meter Opening on Saturday
To: [e-mail]

Bob Witte ([e-mail]) wrote:
:    I've usually spent my 6M time on SSB (50.125 and up) but last
:    weekend played around with FM on the band. It seems that (like 10 FM),
:    everyone hangs out on the calling frequency (52.525). Are there
:    other preferred FM simplex frequencies commonly used?

When the band gets really hot, it usually spills over onto 52.490.
Sometimes in the fury on 52.525 I just give my call and say "moving to
52.490".  You would be surprised how many guys follow you over there!

--

Jim Kurdzo   AA1GZ
General DataComm
Middlebury, CT  06762-1299
[phone] x6443
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 20:10:50 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn![e-mail]
Subject: SkyWarn Patches
To: [e-mail]

Anybody know where I can obtain SkyWarn (or is it Skywarn, or maybe SKYWARN,
or possibly skywarn... :-) patches?  As soon as they get in this
area (Colorado Springs) they disapear.

Thanks and 73
Erik
--
Erik Mugele                 *    [e-mail]    *  PGP public key by request.
Amateur Radio: N5XYX        *   [e-mail]   *  95 15 FC CF CF D6 19 5A
DoD#: 1030                  *                    *  54 04 EB D8 A7 04 15 0B
--------------------  Strip mining prevents forest fires!  --------------------

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Date: 24 May 1994 14:41:58 -0500
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Subscribe
To: [e-mail]

Hi,
    Does anyone know of mods for the President 2510 boosting the
output power from 25 to 50 watts??  If so please forward that information
to me.  Thanks

--
David Kirkpatrick N1RBM, Sequoia Systems, Marlboro, Ma
[e-mail]



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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 17:18:19 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com![e-mail]
Subject: Test session wierdos
To: [e-mail]

: we had a guy at our test session this past weekend who refused to
: sign the 610 because of the wording of the certification that all
: the info was correct, etc. etc. We told him the FCC probably wouldn't
: accept the form without a signature and the guy got all steamed
: about his rights, etc etc. He got real belligerent and
: disruptive so we asked him to leave.

Hmmmm, I wonder if the guy also refuses to sign is Form 1040 for the
IRS every year as well.   ;-)     Sounds like a nut.

Aother Story:
------------
This one isn't about weirdos or any thing .... but at a test session
some time ago, there was an 83 year-old ham who came in to sit for
his 20 wpm cw test.  The "lead" CW examiner was actually a "neighbor"
of his.  Anyway, the old fellow was very nervous and used a combination
of cursive and printed characters in his writing.  He passed only
6 of the 10 questions, so I sat down and counted letters.  His writing
was pretty awful, but the "third" CW VE and I went thru letter-by-
letter and counted them.  It wasn't easy .... but we counted something
like 120 letters in a row.  Unfortunately, the "lead" VE could not
make the same count ... nor were two other VEs who were called over
to look at the handwritten copy.  So, now we had 5 VEs, with the
first two saying "yes" and the other three saying "no".

The key problem came down to a word like "KLM" or something.
He had even re-written the word to "try" and make it clearer - but...
The "three 'no' VEs" said he had printed a "KLK".  I said -
no way BECAUSE - the two supposed "K"s didn't look like each
other.  I explained that a "K" is written with only 3 strokes
of the pen - using shapes like:   | / \    and the letter
"M" MUST have 4 strokes of the pen (which the examinee did have)
using:  |  \  /  |.

Anyway, the VE coordinater refused and had the three "NO" VEs take
responsibility for the examinee's 610.  After the session, I
wrote a letter to the VEC and explained my contention
that the examinee had actually "passed" and that his written
copy should be reviewed again ... using my argument of the
3 versus 4 strokes of the pen to make an "M".

Bottom line .... the VEC came back and "recommended" that the
old fellow had indeed passed and that the original "third"
VE and the two of us who said "yes" should sign off on his
CSCE.  We did and it all worked out for the best.

Actually, it may be possible that the examinee, due to his
advanced years (much less his nervousness) may not have been
able to write "clearly" as demanded by some of the VEs.
I almost wondered if that guy would have had a case for an
age-discrimination lawsuit (arrghhhh).  Anyway, alls well that
ends well.

73 de Sandy
WA6BXH
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 15:00:40 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!ub!csn!server!stortek.com![e-mail]
Subject: What does HAM mean ?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Jeffrey D. Angus) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Jeffrey D. Angus)
>Subject: What does HAM mean ?
>Date: Tue, 24 May 94 06:41:12 GMT


                   Heroes
                   Amateurs
                   Maniacs

    Modesty prevents us from boasting about the first.
    The FCC tries to control the last.
    And the rest of us profess to be the middle.


Just a thought.

73's N0WCG
Pat

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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 18:17:20 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!gatekeeper.es.dupont.com!eplrx7!eplrx7.es.dupont.com![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <2rj9i5$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <2rqtfr$[e-mail]>ra.net
Subject : Re: Callsign Server EMAIL Address Wanted

If you can only E-mail for a Ham Call listing, try a message to
[e-mail]    Ith
In the text start the first line with LOOKUP then calls separated by
spaces. I Haven't used it for a while but it used to work well.  Jeff
4

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Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 11:39:49
From: world!blanket.mitre.org!linus.mitre.org!newsflash.mitre.org!m14494-pc.mitre.org![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>g
Subject : Re: 2 meter thru-glass

Jim Hollenback writes:
>Matching was 1:1.1. I would not call that doesn't match well. Been on the
>truck for the past couple years ... still 1:1.1, I would not call that
>ages badly.

I'm glad that you had better luck with them than I did. Mine was a
never-ending source of trouble, and I ended up throwing it away.

Mike, N4PDY


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Mike White
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703-883-7923 office
703-430-8402 home

My opinions are my own, not my employer's.

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